You wanna know why? Because you’re insane.īut is there? Where do we draw the line? Is killing one step too far, or is it still possible to come back from that? Interestingly enough, Frank Castle was able to justify his own killings while simultaneously recognizing that what he was doing was still crime enough to require punishment. And you’re going to have to kill me because I’m never going to stop coming for you, even if I have to take you down. And you really are a nutjob.Įven while throwing out accusations of being a nutjob, though, Daredevil still believed that there was something good inside of Frank Castle, just like everyone else. and if you don’t get that, there’s something broken in you you can’t fix. Stop killing, have hope, give people a second chance. Either way, the level of carnage and unflinching lack of remorse in The Punisher on Netflix’s Daredevil makes it seem like whatever he’s doing to bring justice to Hell’s Kitchen, Frank Castle is going about it the wrong way.ĭuring their rooftop conversation, which was one-sided until Daredevil started asking the important question of why his mask hadn’t been removed (“I don’t give a shit about who you are”) and what The Punisher was going to do with all of his military-grade toys (“what’s required”), Matt tried to convince Frank to be a “good” vigilante like himself. Maybe I’ve grown up more than I thought in the past twelve years, or maybe it’s just that Jon Bernthal’s version of the character is being seen through the eyes of the “good guy” in Matt Murdock. Knowing Frank Castle’s backstory and seeing the filth he was taking off the streets, I rooted for him and admired his particular form of ruthless badassery. Did anybody watching The Punisher back in 2004 really sit there, munching on greasy popcorn and thinking, “hey, this guy is bad news?” I know I didn’t. Honestly, until I’d seen Frank Castle compared to a guy like Matt Murdock, I’d never even questioned whether he was a superhero or one of Marvel’s villains. The Punisher scenario was a moot point - almost a joke, even. I say that because the primary focus of Daredevil season 2 episode 3 seemed to be in continuing to push the question of whether or not both vigilantes were really made of the same stuff and, if not, which of Marvel’s characters had the better approach to fighting crime.Īs far as Frank Castle was concerned, the question of who was the good guy and who was the bad guy in the whole Daredevil vs. It’s interesting that, when picking my top five moments from Daredevil 2×02, I commented on some of the moral implications of the Devil of Hell’s Kitchen’s actions, as well as the idea of whether or not the people’s worship of him had actually created The Punisher.
How far is too far when it comes to fighting crime? Is operating outside of the law ever a good thing, or does it only delay the inevitable crossing of that very fine line? Seeing the darker side of vigilantism in the form of Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) side-by-side with Daredevil brought new insight and further complications into question. The conversation that took place between Marvel’s characters brought up some really interesting questions, many of which Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) had already struggled with in the first season of Daredevil on Netflix. just something where Foggy pretends that he isn't attracted to Matt and Matt lets him, until he doesn't.In Daredevil season 2 episode 3, Daredevil and The Punisher spent some quality time together - with the Devil of Hell’s Kitchen spending most of that time in chains. Language: English Words: 6,239 Chapters: 1/1 Comments: 183 Kudos: 5575 Bookmarks: 1096 Hits: 73549Ī short, quick fill for this kinkmeme prompt:ĥ times Matt let Foggy get away with lying to him, and one time he didn't. He thinks he feels his heart break a little more each time.
He writes it down in his extra note book again and again. Hates what it did to his Mom and Dad.įoggy blames being sick on the alcohol and Matt believes him. Matt tells him after a pub crawl that he hates the idea of soulmates.
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